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	<title>Comments on: NETFLIX DID IT AGAIN : FALLING ON DEAF EARS!!!</title>
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		<title>By: Verbosity</title>
		<link>http://www.deafeyeseeit.com/2009/10/19/netflix-did-it-again-falling-on-deaf-ears/comment-page-1/#comment-7321</link>
		<dc:creator>Verbosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS - You have convinced me of one thing, I should not watch this documentary because I am not deaf and it is &quot;special and exclusively&quot; for deaf people.  This is what you want, right, for people outside your world never to see this documentary... right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS &#8211; You have convinced me of one thing, I should not watch this documentary because I am not deaf and it is &#8220;special and exclusively&#8221; for deaf people.  This is what you want, right, for people outside your world never to see this documentary&#8230; right?</p>
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		<title>By: Verbosity</title>
		<link>http://www.deafeyeseeit.com/2009/10/19/netflix-did-it-again-falling-on-deaf-ears/comment-page-1/#comment-7320</link>
		<dc:creator>Verbosity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Oct 2010 10:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something disturbed me about this very hostile reaction towards Netflix.  I wasn&#039;t certain what it was, then I tried playing your YouTube video and discovered what it was.  You are upset about the accessibility for deaf or hard of hearing videos, and yet your video discriminates against the blind.  You do not have an electronic voice converting text to speech for those with vision impairments - and thus are doing something no better than Netflix.

Honestly, I think it is in Netflix&#039;s best interest to include captioning.  I watch frequently at night with the volume all the way down due to sudden loud bursts - often leaving over half the videos unintelligible.  Captions would help even me, someone with bad but not limited hearing.

I also think many sites could do more to encourage accessibility.  However, realize there is consequences to legislation - namely, the cost of accessibility to sites (blind, deaf, those with limited mobility, those with epilepsy, and so on) will mean many companies will choose to not enter the market at all.

Do you really think 100% coverage of all people with some need outside the norm should be legally required?  After all, accounting for 100% of all possible contingencies is impossible and thus all companies would have to have big bankrolls to cover potential lawsuits.  In other words, would you be willing to accept this legislation if suddenly it cost you $100/month to access Netflix Watch Instantly, and $100/month to access Fox.com online, and $100/month to access CNN.com, and $1000/month to access Hulu, and so forth.

It is not a solution for you, but what do I do when I can&#039;t really hear the TV due to it being late at night?  I watch subtitled foreign movies... or I watch &quot;eye candy&quot; action films where knowing the dialog really adds little.

I&#039;m sorry that you feel left out of Netflix.  Perhaps you should instead target film industry first.  Netflix redistributes their products, and they are the ones not subtitling all films.  Which raises the question, do you expect movie theaters to have closed captioning available to you?  How about a music CD, do you expect that all CDs and CD players have a visual display of the sheet music and lyrics when you can&#039;t hear it?  Do you advocate all silent films be re-edited to include sound tracks for the blind?

Oh, and my wife has a sever peanut allergy (ie, potentially lethal) - do you support a nationwide ban on all peanut products or products manufactured in a plant that processes peanuts so she can go safely anywhere?  (Including a Texas Roadhouse or other restaurant that does the whole &quot;free peanuts&quot; thing?)

How far do we go to legislate accommodating outside 2 standard deviations of our potential market?  Cars for quadriplegic?  Odor stickers on meat for those who have lost their sense of taste and smell?  Smart flooring to reduce foot injuries to diabetics?  All wheat product manufacturers required to make and market non-wheat products wherever their regular products are so as not to inconvenience those with gluten allergies?  No shrimp in restaurants to ensure no cross-contamination for those with allergies?

So, does it upset you that Netflix does not comply with full web accessibility standards for all potential contingencies - or they are not accommodating your specific group and the rest be damned (because they are not your group, or they are &quot;too small&quot; of a group)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something disturbed me about this very hostile reaction towards Netflix.  I wasn&#8217;t certain what it was, then I tried playing your YouTube video and discovered what it was.  You are upset about the accessibility for deaf or hard of hearing videos, and yet your video discriminates against the blind.  You do not have an electronic voice converting text to speech for those with vision impairments &#8211; and thus are doing something no better than Netflix.</p>
<p>Honestly, I think it is in Netflix&#8217;s best interest to include captioning.  I watch frequently at night with the volume all the way down due to sudden loud bursts &#8211; often leaving over half the videos unintelligible.  Captions would help even me, someone with bad but not limited hearing.</p>
<p>I also think many sites could do more to encourage accessibility.  However, realize there is consequences to legislation &#8211; namely, the cost of accessibility to sites (blind, deaf, those with limited mobility, those with epilepsy, and so on) will mean many companies will choose to not enter the market at all.</p>
<p>Do you really think 100% coverage of all people with some need outside the norm should be legally required?  After all, accounting for 100% of all possible contingencies is impossible and thus all companies would have to have big bankrolls to cover potential lawsuits.  In other words, would you be willing to accept this legislation if suddenly it cost you $100/month to access Netflix Watch Instantly, and $100/month to access Fox.com online, and $100/month to access CNN.com, and $1000/month to access Hulu, and so forth.</p>
<p>It is not a solution for you, but what do I do when I can&#8217;t really hear the TV due to it being late at night?  I watch subtitled foreign movies&#8230; or I watch &#8220;eye candy&#8221; action films where knowing the dialog really adds little.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry that you feel left out of Netflix.  Perhaps you should instead target film industry first.  Netflix redistributes their products, and they are the ones not subtitling all films.  Which raises the question, do you expect movie theaters to have closed captioning available to you?  How about a music CD, do you expect that all CDs and CD players have a visual display of the sheet music and lyrics when you can&#8217;t hear it?  Do you advocate all silent films be re-edited to include sound tracks for the blind?</p>
<p>Oh, and my wife has a sever peanut allergy (ie, potentially lethal) &#8211; do you support a nationwide ban on all peanut products or products manufactured in a plant that processes peanuts so she can go safely anywhere?  (Including a Texas Roadhouse or other restaurant that does the whole &#8220;free peanuts&#8221; thing?)</p>
<p>How far do we go to legislate accommodating outside 2 standard deviations of our potential market?  Cars for quadriplegic?  Odor stickers on meat for those who have lost their sense of taste and smell?  Smart flooring to reduce foot injuries to diabetics?  All wheat product manufacturers required to make and market non-wheat products wherever their regular products are so as not to inconvenience those with gluten allergies?  No shrimp in restaurants to ensure no cross-contamination for those with allergies?</p>
<p>So, does it upset you that Netflix does not comply with full web accessibility standards for all potential contingencies &#8211; or they are not accommodating your specific group and the rest be damned (because they are not your group, or they are &#8220;too small&#8221; of a group)?</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 02:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am overdue to respond this, but there&#039;s another way to get them to address this is to buy one share of their stock so you have a right to attend all stockholders&#039; meetings and you can voice, too!  It costs $59.44 to buy one share.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am overdue to respond this, but there&#8217;s another way to get them to address this is to buy one share of their stock so you have a right to attend all stockholders&#8217; meetings and you can voice, too!  It costs $59.44 to buy one share.</p>
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		<title>By: Deaf Pixie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deaf Pixie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 14:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy,

 Wow!!  you showed me a circle of words &quot; Streaming&quot; I could not believe! 
  I mailed you and it will be arriving your house tomorrow or Thursday. I read this your blog. I finally understood better.  Netflix know better how many deaf community lives on Earth.  The Deaf baby booms are now over a millions since 1940&#039;s.  

You have lot of empowered about A.D.A to against Netflix! 


MAT</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy,</p>
<p> Wow!!  you showed me a circle of words &#8221; Streaming&#8221; I could not believe!<br />
  I mailed you and it will be arriving your house tomorrow or Thursday. I read this your blog. I finally understood better.  Netflix know better how many deaf community lives on Earth.  The Deaf baby booms are now over a millions since 1940&#8242;s.  </p>
<p>You have lot of empowered about A.D.A to against Netflix! </p>
<p>MAT</p>
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		<title>By: bwagen</title>
		<link>http://www.deafeyeseeit.com/2009/10/19/netflix-did-it-again-falling-on-deaf-ears/comment-page-1/#comment-3839</link>
		<dc:creator>bwagen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think we are using our time wisely on this. It is important to practice our rights and equal as we are part of this society. It seemed to be a uphill battle, but I know we can do it. Cnet, Hulu, Youtube, Google, and some other websites already have some captions, so why not the Netflix. The more we fight for caption on website, the more access we get in information for our knowledge, learning, and even entertainment. After we get Netflix put more than few movies captioned, then I would love to see for us to go after CNN, ESPN, other news that have videos on their websites. HR 3101 is a good start, but do not rest on the rocking chair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think we are using our time wisely on this. It is important to practice our rights and equal as we are part of this society. It seemed to be a uphill battle, but I know we can do it. Cnet, Hulu, Youtube, Google, and some other websites already have some captions, so why not the Netflix. The more we fight for caption on website, the more access we get in information for our knowledge, learning, and even entertainment. After we get Netflix put more than few movies captioned, then I would love to see for us to go after CNN, ESPN, other news that have videos on their websites. HR 3101 is a good start, but do not rest on the rocking chair.</p>
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		<title>By: RLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, 

 Why we waste our time with the Netflix? 

 I unsubscribe the service pretty long time ago. 

RLM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, </p>
<p> Why we waste our time with the Netflix? </p>
<p> I unsubscribe the service pretty long time ago. </p>
<p>RLM</p>
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		<title>By: RLM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RLM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 04:12:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amy, 

  Go ahead with the full-scale public campaign to put the Netflix in the hall of shame and make it pay dearly for snubbing the deaf and HOH community. 

  White Ghost was absolutely right why we don&#039;t have any legal teeth with the online video streamings, etc. 

White Ghost, 

  I did write the blog entry pretty long time ago about what we should do about the 3-D film at theatre if we, deaf people could not possibly enjoy the 3-D films. 

  Y had good question about the big Q&#039;s about the captioning of 3-D television programs and movies. 

  The 3-D TV will come real sooner than we anticipate. 

RLM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy, </p>
<p>  Go ahead with the full-scale public campaign to put the Netflix in the hall of shame and make it pay dearly for snubbing the deaf and HOH community. </p>
<p>  White Ghost was absolutely right why we don&#8217;t have any legal teeth with the online video streamings, etc. </p>
<p>White Ghost, </p>
<p>  I did write the blog entry pretty long time ago about what we should do about the 3-D film at theatre if we, deaf people could not possibly enjoy the 3-D films. </p>
<p>  Y had good question about the big Q&#8217;s about the captioning of 3-D television programs and movies. </p>
<p>  The 3-D TV will come real sooner than we anticipate. </p>
<p>RLM</p>
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		<title>By: Ann_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Oct 2009 03:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone,

The only way to really solve this problem is to go to legislative level. This means writing or e-mailing your state Representatives right now because HR 3101 is the internet captioning access bill that ADA doesn&#039;t cover and will be on the House floor soon.  The passage of HR 3101 will force every internet source to provide captioning of video content on the internet.  That includes Netflix. I urge all you readers to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone,</p>
<p>The only way to really solve this problem is to go to legislative level. This means writing or e-mailing your state Representatives right now because HR 3101 is the internet captioning access bill that ADA doesn&#8217;t cover and will be on the House floor soon.  The passage of HR 3101 will force every internet source to provide captioning of video content on the internet.  That includes Netflix. I urge all you readers to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: RICHARD JANTZ, JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>RICHARD JANTZ, JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 04:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I AM UPSET ABOUT NETFLIX DISCRIMINATED ON DEAF PEOPLE THAT ALL OF US HAVE RIGHTS HAVE C.C. THAT NETFLIX MUST PUT C.C. ON IT NOW!  THAT&#039;S ENOUGH FOR DEAF SUFFERS MANY YEARS!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I AM UPSET ABOUT NETFLIX DISCRIMINATED ON DEAF PEOPLE THAT ALL OF US HAVE RIGHTS HAVE C.C. THAT NETFLIX MUST PUT C.C. ON IT NOW!  THAT&#8217;S ENOUGH FOR DEAF SUFFERS MANY YEARS!!!!</p>
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		<dc:creator>uberVU - social comments</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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